{"id":2535,"date":"2020-07-18T16:02:40","date_gmt":"2020-07-18T16:02:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/funkboxing.com\/wordpress\/?p=2535"},"modified":"2021-01-03T17:50:58","modified_gmt":"2021-01-03T17:50:58","slug":"data-mining-earth-for-fun-and-profit","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/funkboxing.com\/wordpress\/?p=2535","title":{"rendered":"Data Mining Earth for Fun and Profit"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"SALWITAY - Data Mining Earth for Fun and Profit\" width=\"695\" height=\"391\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/5WdRvOGXx8c?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><figcaption>Gradient Hauler HW-09 MkIV &#8211; High efficiency material transport vehicle used in gas giant mining and prospecting operations. Designed specifically to travel within selected gas density gradients in order to comply with gas field property claims and transportation regulations. The skate section extends 3-15 meters to accommodate a wide range of densities.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>There really isn\u2019t anything that special about Earth except life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If we imagine a visiting alien species, we can make some assumptions based entirely on the fact that they got here at all. We can assume they are capable of interstellar travel since it\u2019s unlikely another space capable species is hiding in our solar system. That\u2019s pretty impressive right there, and I\u2019m assuming subluminal travel because FTL is sci-fi. The level of technological mastery necessary to move living beings between stars is as distant to us as Apollo was to an ape pondering birds in flight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A species even capable of sending an interstellar probe has at least mastered propulsion and navigation that are only theoretical. If they come in person it implies a mastery of systems necessary to maintain their biological function in ways that we\u2019re not even clear are possible for human beings. I think it\u2019s safe to assume they would be so far beyond our technology that our grandest scales of engineering are a quaint curiosity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So what might such a visiting species want?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Maybe resources? Presumably any technology will require resources, and those resources will consist of various forms of energy and matter. But there really aren\u2019t any resources unique to Earth, or even the Sol system. There are no unique, raw energy or matter resources on Earth that couldn\u2019t be acquired in most solar systems, and from places with less atmosphere and gravity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The common sci-fi trope of liquid water is just hilariously absurd. It\u2019s just not a hard molecule to find, change the phase of, or just make. Pulling water out of a gravitational well as deep as Earth is as efficient as hauling ice from the north pole to cool beer in Ecuador. Metals, radioactive material, even complex crystals created by intense geologic processes would be far more efficient to extract and synthesize from materials and processes available in lower gravity and less atmosphere for a species with interstellar technology. I think it\u2019s safe to rule out any kind of physical resource as a motive for a visiting species to make the trip to our particular corner of space.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So maybe it\u2019s not just resources, maybe it\u2019s the real estate- Earth\u2019s unique orbital or gravitational and\\or atmospheric characteristics. Well I guess that\u2019s not inconceivable, but it would imply the visiting species developed on a planet extremely similar to Earth and is looking to expand or relocate. Relocation scenarios seem far less likely than expansion for obvious reasons. But even that assumes the species expansion requires, or highly values planets like Earth for some reason. It also assumes carbon based, Earth analog life is relatively common in the universe, otherwise it\u2019s extremely unlikely there would be another civilization nearby enough to take advantage. Or I guess it could imply it\u2019s not common, but one particular carbon based Earth analog civilization beat us to becoming space faring conquerors. We can\u2019t rule out that Earth is in a uniquely valuable spot, and thinking through plausible sounding scenarios of Earth\u2019s value to aliens is fertile ground for sci-fi, but I think it\u2019s built on way too many anthropic assumptions about the universe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Also I really think species that expand beyond their planet of origin trend towards existence in lower gravity wells, but I\u2019ll get into the reasoning for that another time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Also- if they do want the planet, it\u2019s theirs. That\u2019s another great well for sci-fi, but there are no version of humans vs interstellar aliens that want Earth that doesn\u2019t end with Earth having a new name we can\u2019t pronounce, but it won\u2019t matter because we won\u2019t be around to pronounce it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We like to make analogies to Columbus or other great Earth voyages and encounters between distant cultures, but those comparisons are ludicrously inadequate. The whole thing ignores that the Colombian Exchange was almost entirely cultural. From a biological perspective, not much happened. Continents traded a few species of plants and animals and it jostled a few ecosystems pretty hard, but there were humans on both continents before and after the exchange. It was just a migration. If another advanced species wanted the planet, they\u2019d just selectively delete parts of or the entire Earth ecosystem. There will be no romantic resistance. They\u2019ll just exterminate us from orbit. So we can just move on from that whole thing. It requires insane assumptions about alien circumstances and motivations for visiting, and if it happens it\u2019ll be as inevitable and complete as getting wiped out by a rogue black hole or something.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So if it\u2019s not the location, and it\u2019s not the stuff, what\u2019s left? Us, of course. \u2018Us\u2019 being everyone that lives on Earth and \u2018everyone\u2019, being every living thing. We\u2019d probably like to think humans are the most interesting thing on the planet, and we do some notable things, but I\u2019m not sure we\u2019re interesting enough to justify the kind of effort needed for interstellar travel, especially not in person. We might be of interest to an alienthropolgist, but I don\u2019t know what a species advanced enough to achieve interstellar travel would expect to learn from communicating directly with us. I\u2019d assume they\u2019d be satisfied with passive, remote observation to learn about human beings. And if they can survive or reliably maintain organization across the time necessary for interstellar travel they\u2019re probably in no hurry to learn anything about us that would incentivize contact. So I\u2019m thinking if humans are a subject of interest at all we only justify data collection, they\u2019re not sending an envoy to welcome us to the universe and ask us how we\u2019re enjoying consciousness.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The really interesting thing about \u2018us\u2019 is the rich complexity and potentially utility of self-assembling and reproducing biological structures that pervade the environment of Earth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Earth has been running a kind of a brute force molecular algorithm for a few billion years now. The output of that process is life, and it\u2019s a pretty impressive collection of data about how matter works, or how to make matter work. Analyzing life may be a highly efficient way to gain information about available molecular interactions. Maybe Earth is an alien bioengineering data goldmine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A species capable of interstellar flight would very likely have extensive computational technology. They may have mastered quantum computing, or created neural networks that defy our understanding of machine intelligence. But their computation will be limited by the same kinds of hard physical limits that limit their velocity through space. They will not have infinite computational capacity. Even with our most optimistic visions of quantum computing, if you want to fully simulate the universe, you\u2019d still need at least one qubit for every particle in the universe. Of course there\u2019s a lot of redundancy there, so maybe an optimization process could find more with less, but against the infinite possibilities of the universe, anything less than infinite computation may be woefully inadequate. And of course even with extremely fast computation, you still need time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m not sure how to even build a model to speculate on the computations necessary to fully simulate a biological system as ancient or complex as Earth. If a species has an interest in knowing every possible useful molecular interaction, it may be simpler and more efficient to venture out to find new and novel examples of functional molecular interaction in the vastness of space than build and run the simulations necessary to uncover every possible interaction.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Matter itself may be the most efficient computational system to simulate the interaction of matter. If this is the case even advanced alien civilizations may find value in studying the output of long running processes of interaction such as evolution.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So- if an alien ever abducts you and probes your butt- don\u2019t take it personally. 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